Wisdom in Death and Dying with Stephen Jenkinson

Sounds of SAND presents an in-depth and provocative conversation from Science and Nonduality’s “Death and Dying” online summit. A long-time friend of SAND Stephen Jenkinson offers a frank dialog with SAND co-founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo. This conversation took place during the first months of COVID which you’ll hear Stephen talk about as “the plague” they also touch upon:

  • the meaning of death and dying in a death-phobic culture
  • the idea of death as a god
  • the differences between death culture in North America and Europe and other cultures
  • Stephen’s perspectives on Euthanasia.
  • plus some original music from Stephen and Gregory Hoskins at the end of the episode!

Stephen Jenkinson is an activist, teacher, author, and farmer. He's the founder of the Orphan Wisdom School in Tramore, Canada, and the author of four books, including Die Wise: A Manifesto for Sanity and Soul, the award-winning book about grief and dying and the great love of life. And stick around until the end of the podcast to hear a spoken word musical collaboration from Stephen and Gregory Hoskins from their Nights of Grief and Mystery project.


Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo are the co-founders and directors of SAND and their many offerings, events, and films. Their latest film is The Wisdom of Trauma which has been viewed by over six million people in 230 countries around the world.


Science and Nonduality (SAND) is a community inspired by timeless wisdom, informed by cutting-edge science, and grounded in direct experience. We come together in an open-hearted exploration while celebrating our humanity.